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Journey's avatar

And yet.. twice. If this had been Obama or Clinton ... The roof would be blown off and we'd never stop hearing about it. But somehow we're immune now.

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Deb Buss's avatar

We're only immune because we're helpless to do anything to stop trump. I'm hopeful that the files will now be taken seriously & trump will finally go to jail. He's had fun using the White House for his awful agenda. To ruin America. He's responsible for the Texas horror. He is seriously memtally ill, incontenent & poops himself like a baby as he now has to wear Depends. He's pissed off Canada, Mexico, Japan & other countries & none of them will trade with US until he's removed from Office. At least if the Democrats are back in power there will be a huge clean-up & hopefully a law that prevents Trump from having anything to do with politics in the future. No computer in Jail!!! His Aligator hell will be removed. His "buddies" that did the damage to the White House in his prebious Presidency, will be jailed. So much to be done all at once. I've following Trump since 2016. That rally was an eye opener. I have hated him since then & feel more hatred now. I'm not woman who hates anybody normally. I'll be following the downfall of Trump.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

We aren’t immune, but it seems the rich & powerful are.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

Of course the rules don't apply to this pig.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

What site did you find this on? I'm not clicking on your link.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

YOU HAVE ANY VALID PROOF? Then show it!

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Journey's avatar

And by immune I meant we're so desensitized by his and the administrations hypocritical antics

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Clinton was implicated as using Epstein's services.

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Journey's avatar

Actually he wasn't. He was a passenger on his plane as per manifest info but never reported as a client. Regardless of what may or may not have happened, this is why we should see this list Bondi admitted she had on her desk for so long. It'll just turn out to be like everything else trump was supposed to release... Files, taxes, medical records....

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Don't get me wrong. We are on the same side, but I caution my liberal friends that if the Epstien files are open be prepared.

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Journey's avatar

I don't disagree, but victims deserve justice and if they can't really get that, then they at least deserve to be officially believed. Who goes down, goes down. We cannot sacrifice more innocent people for the sake of a criminal.

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mvskokeauntie's avatar

IDC who's name is on there. If they're proven to be guilty of being a pedo...fvck em. They need to be in jail. Idc what letter is behind their name (D) or (R). Idc how many have stars on hollywood blvd. Release the list!! Btw, No one has mentioned on any of these comments about the 9 yr old boy who trump paid his family off. Pedos don't care what sex the child is. It's all about power. And we ALL know that's what the orange racist/rapist conman wants. Power. I've loathed DJT since the mid 80s with central park killings

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Thank you!

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Melissa's avatar

It's a sickness, that species of literally insatiable need for power (more accurately, I believe, for control). It cannot be satisfied, ever, which is why it frequently results in death: of the victim(s) or of the perp or of both. Professionals who see more of this than maybe even cops are veterinarians.

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Journey's avatar

Short stop... Tell me about this young boy? Where have I been?

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Michelle's avatar

Oh we're prepared, Everyone Knows Clinton was a womanizer, we watched on TV all about his womanizing. But right Now the asshat stinking up the WH needs to finally get his comeuppance! Drumpf is the main perpetrator that needs to be exposed! My God, the court filing is on Google for all to see! His supporters back then doxed Jane Doe and the poor girl,and her families lives were destroyed all over again! So the suit was dropped. We all know about Clinton and his escapades, it was all over TV and Newspapers! But the truth Must come out about Drumpf, he's a damn pig even going as far as on tape saying he'd date his own daughter! Let's get the Truth out there! He brutally raped Jane Doe and it Must be the pig's undoing because it's true and she Needs Justice!

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Why would I disagree with that? You're preaching to the choir.

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Michelle's avatar

You just seem hell bent on pushing but Clinton. So who's preaching to the choir?

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Journey's avatar

I also believe that though Clinton was unfaithful, I don't believe he's a pedophile. I don't believe he would be in the low league of wanting to mess with or force young girls I to anything of the sort. But I still just want the whole thing out on the table come what may.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

No one gives a fuck about Clinton and what he did. Long over. Now we have someone stinking up our White House who does not give a shit about anyone but himself. Get a brain.

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

I have a brain and apparentlly all you have is a mouth. Keep im mind we are on the same side. You seem to just jump on a comment without reason. And yes there are people who give a fuck. A pedo is a pedo is a pedo no matter who it is!

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Irene Kellner's avatar

I, too have a brain. Did I offend you?

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

No but apparently you are🤣🤣🤣

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Melissa's avatar

Hillbilly Sue: Glad so glad you jumped in. You saved me from responding in fury on your behalf! What the heck gets into some people!??!?

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Irene Kellner's avatar

Stfu lady.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

Clinton was a pedophile? Thats what you implied

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Kent's avatar

I

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Patrice Fitzgerald's avatar

Bill Clinton is listed as having ridden on his plane. Much as many other big names were. To the extent that he's talked about it, Clinton says these were legitimate trips in connection with the Clinton Foundation and its battle against AIDS. Clinton's aide Doug Bands was on most of the flights that Clinton was.

Other folks who flew on Epstein's plane include supermodel Naomi Campbell, actor Kevin Spacey and comedian Chris Tucker.

Epstein was no dummy in terms of attempting to legitimatize his reputation. Here's reporting from 2020 about his connections to Harvard and MIT:

Harvard University admitted Friday that Jeffrey Epstein had his own office and phone line at the university and also made several visits there even after he was convicted in 2008 of soliciting sex from minors.

According to a new report from the university, Epstein, the disgraced financier who killed himself in jail last year while awaiting sex crimes charges, visited Harvard more than 40 times after his 2008 conviction and unveiled deep ties between him and the university, with which he had no official affiliation.

University President Lawrence Bacow said in a letter to the Harvard community that Harvard accepted $9.1 million from Epstein between 1998 and 2008 to support research and faculty activities. He also said the university donated $200,937 in unspent contributions from Epstein to organizations supporting human trafficking and sexual assault victims.

While the hallowed institution did not accept donations from Epstein after 2008, the financier was allowed to make 40 visits between 2010 and 2018 to Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics, which Epstein helped create with a $6.5 million donation. He was also granted access to the program’s office and given his own office space.

Martin Nowak, a math and biology professor who headed the program, “permitted Epstein to have unrestricted access to Harvard offices,” even though he was aware Epstein was a registered sex offender, the report said.

Nowak also allowed Epstein to use the program’s website to promote his own website, and incorrectly told a foundation that provides grants that he had matching funds from a foundation of Epstein’s.

Nowak was placed on paid administrative leave following the review pending an investigation on whether he broke the university’s policies and standards of professional conduct.

Among other things, the review into Epstein’s affiliation with Harvard recommended the university make more stringent its reviews of potentially controversial donations and adjust the way it appoints visiting fellows.

“The report issued today describes principled decision-making but also reveals institutional and individual shortcomings that must be addressed — not only for the sake of the University, but also in recognition of the courageous individuals who sought to bring Epstein to justice,” wrote Bacow.

Epstein was ultimately charged last year with sex trafficking and sex trafficking conspiracy over allegations that he sexually assaulted girls as young as 14 years old. He was found hanging in his cell in Manhattan in August.

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology also admitted earlier this year that it had taken $850,000 from Epstein from 2002 to 2017, and that the financier had visited campus at least nine times between 2013 to 2017.

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Barb Bernhardt's avatar

Maybe the Epstein-Harvard funding connection is another reason Trump has for ruining that university. Not because he has any morality but because there is some connection to him that someone at Harvard knows about

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Melissa's avatar

Barb B: Likewise perhaps the Epstein-MIT funding; and that the Epstein fundings of both are connected by a third party or parties?

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Barb Bernhardt's avatar

Sounds plausible.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

says who? proof?

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

I hope there is not. Duh.

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Ray grace's avatar

Once you get used to the Shit smell, you're used to it.

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Irene Kellner's avatar

I DON’T WANT TO GET USED TO HIS STENCH! I JUST WANT HIM GONE.

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Michelle's avatar

Amen Irene Amen

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Irene Kellner's avatar

HORRIBLE.

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Jacqueline Powell's avatar

This needs to be sent to hard core magaites along with the court record as on example. This needs to be kept up until they get the picture.

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Manuel Olmo's avatar

Including the SCOTUS but especially Amy Coney Barrett..

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Descendant Of The Ancestor's avatar

I can personally attest that core MAGA don’t care one whit that he’s a kiddie rapist. They don’t care if their own kids are raped. These people—and I use the term loosely—wouldn’t care if he raped a child on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight. THAT is how sick and twisted they really are.

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Well there does seem to be a fracture in the MAGA base currently because of the Epstein scandal. I'm waiting to see where it leads. Hopefully a civil war will ensue within their ranks.

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Descendant Of The Ancestor's avatar

Agreed! Now, where did I put the popcorn? 🍿

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Truth Seeking Missile's avatar

Better go take your meds. You seem to be escaping reality through uninformed delusion.

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Hillbilly Sue's avatar

Well so called Truth Seeking Missile if not true enlighten us with your infinite wisdom, because you sound and smell like a troll to me.

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Jill 🌞's avatar

Wow. This poor girl. She is so brave to speak up. She is worthy of so much more. And to think, these egregious acts were by our President. Sickening. Shameful. And shame on mainstream media for covering this up.

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Jacque DeWolf's avatar

not my president. FELON47

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Barbara Dillard's avatar

Great for Jake trappers book about Trump

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KLYR's avatar

I believe the women. I also believe the child.

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Jennifer B's avatar

Sadly... the type who support Trump, dont ever believe women😔 But I will share and I agree it should go viral! Should have 16 years ago... but EVERY single time anything that looks bad on him is brought up, he just claims its fake news... he even admitted why he does that to Lesley Stahl (journalist, may have spelled the name wrong).And these conspiracy theorist believe him over ANYONE else! I remember seeing this story, not the video, but the case... during the 2016 election and trying to share it to everyone I knew... but they didnt believe it then... just like they said access Hollywood tape was just locker room talk🙄 Its sick how these people denounce everything... maybe we can finally open some eyes though with them not putting out the client list and claiming there isn't one🤷‍♀️

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The Mitz's avatar

They tell you they believe him to own you.Nobody with any sense believes a single thing he says. His supporters don’t care that he lies every single time he opens his pie hole and something like words fall out. MAGAts are a cult of awfulness. They spend all day every day trying to out-horrible each other. That’s their game.

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Don't Stop Me Now - TLawrence's avatar

This is so disgusting, on so many levels. The fact he wanted this girl because he looked like his daughter makes me sick. Scum of the earth.

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Barbara Dillard's avatar

Have you heard Trump say before he would do his daughter if she wasn’t his daughter? He’s a sick fuck

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Don't Stop Me Now - TLawrence's avatar

I have questions that he may have. He is cringeworthy.

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The Disabled Activist's avatar

This was a ticking bomb on Trump 2016 campaign that never went off. It's a shame the media did not dig deep into this. The combustible nature of this story was the most valid reason for making it explode, which would have been much more destructive than the Hollywood tape and rumours of Trump enjoying golden showers in Russia.

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Melissa's avatar

The attitude (of both men and women) is still "boys will be boys."

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Michelle's avatar

Michael Cohen said Drumpf even had golden showers when they were in Las Vegas

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The Disabled Activist's avatar

That would not come to any surprise. As I recall, the story goes that Trump watched it rather than received it.

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Michelle's avatar

Yes

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Di Tob's avatar

13 years old, that's an 8th grader. But MAGAs once again are circling the wagons to protect the Republicans that are on the Epstein List. Can you imagine the chaos if all those pedophiles were Democrats?

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Michelle's avatar

That's what the Magats believe this list would expose, they believe it's a bunch of Democrats

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RGomez's avatar

And maybe Dems are on the list too.

Fuck ‘em!

That’s rat shit whomever does it. Get rid of ALL of them.

There are plenty of worthy people in America to replace them.

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Michelle's avatar

Never said Dems weren't on the list but this is about Epstein and Drumpf

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RGomez's avatar

I respectfully beg to differ.

This is about NO ONE being above the law.

This issue is far greater than the two punks,

Epstein and Trump.

We’re talking about cleaning up the foul, stinky ass sewer of American corruption.

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Mary's avatar

What is it about Trump that his base loves him even after he is accused of rape and violence of a child. I just can’t understand how this is okay with so much of America. Deplorable

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Deb Buss's avatar

I don't understand it either. I felt sick as I listened to his victim's story & knew every word waa true. What will it take to impeach Trump & get him OUT of the White House!!!!

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Lisa's avatar

Racism. They are fully invested in the goal that "The south shall rise again" (like the undead, bloodsucking monster, that it always was).

They are white-supremacist terrorists. Trump is a terrorist-leader.

What are a few extra victims, to 'people' who embrace exploitation as a way of life? As a political goal? As a system of government?

You ask why his followers have a never-ending tolerance for his evil, but my question to you, is far too similar for comfort: Why do you maintain any hope that his base — of Neo-Confederates — aren't entirely evil? Why do you continue to look for a glimmer of morality, where it so clearly doesn't exist?

Why do 'moderates' give the eternal benefit of the doubt, to 'people' who are preferentially-evil, when we all know that it comes at the eternal expense of people, whom those terrorists victimize?

I'm not laying all of this on you; we're all guilty of this fucked up impulse.

We all want to believe that there has to be some good in our uncle (or whomever) — no matter how evil they are to other people — just because they're nice to us.

And we all need to smarten the fuck up.

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Deb Buss's avatar

I am horrified at what I heard from Katy. I figured it was bad but hearing her remember what he did to her broke my heart. I hope her testimony helps put this terrible man in jail for a very long time😡😡

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Melissa's avatar

Deb Buss: I got lost - put which horrible man in jail?

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Deb Buss's avatar

Trump. After I saw the pictures I felt sick to my stomach. He & Epstein are monsters to think raping young women is ok😡😡😡

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Vee's avatar

Raping any woman of any age. Yes, especially monstrous to rape little girls. Or to force ANY sexual act on them.

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Judith L Hubbard's avatar

Why has this not received more attention? Details of story align with known felon47’s sexual idiosyncrasies and racial behaviors.

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Dead Man's avatar

This video is 7 months old with only 416 likes and 152 comments.

This is what is wrong with voters.

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Barbara Dillard's avatar

I’m passing this on

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HarrisWalz FTW 2024's avatar

I'd heard some of these stories in a very general way but not the specifics. Not that we didn't already know it, but he is one sick s.o.b. Given other videos I saw earlier today (some not for the first time) of him talking about Ivanka in a sexual way, maybe that's what he's trying to hide: did he actually have sex with is own daughter? Or did he pass her around at these rape "parties?"

Everything this woman says sounds *exactly* like what Donald says and how he behaves in public now, only this is even worse. Cruel, sadistic...he enjoys causing pain. He gets off on treating immigrants like the vermin he calls them. Mary Trump said long ago that that's the only thing that makes him happy, and we see it now more than ever. What the hell is wrong with Congress & SCOTUS, I don't know.

In no way, shape, or form am I blaming the victim, but in the name of all that is holy, how was she on her own with these people at 13?! And how did she get away?

Edited to add: I don't think even raping young women--it's rape if they aren't of age, no matter the level of consent, which clearly wasn't present here--would drive away some of his base. If it came to it, he'd say it was consensual; he'd claim they seduced him, and he'd use all of the same "don't blame me" excuses that all perverts do. Maybe his cult members need to hear more about how long he's fantasized about Ivanka. Sick, sick, sick.

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Laura's avatar

Disgusting human being

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Maureen's avatar

😲😱😢😓😞 I'm so sorry that's how you were introduced to relationships.

For generations women have been treated this way. My Hope for the future is that this all comes to light and Men become ashamed of their worser tendencies.

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Amanecer Monkey's avatar

Please keep posting and pushing this message out. It's critical that as many people know about this as possible.

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Michelle's avatar

Many of us Dems posted everything out there even his cheating workers of pay for work. It was ignored 😩

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